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References: NOW PART NUMBER 8512N
Ford Car Alternator Replacement for Delco 10si/116 Series IR/Ef, 72 Amp/12 Volt, 1-Groove Pulley, 7185-12n, Ford 5s4t-10300-Da, 5s4t-10300-Db, 5s4t-10300-DC, 5s4z-10346-Da, 5s4z-10346-Db, 6s4t-10300-DC, 6s4z-10346-Arm, 6s4z-10346-Da, 6s4z-10346-darm1, 6s4z-10346-Dbrm, 6s4z-10v346-Dbrm, 6s4z10346a, Ford Engineering 5s4t-Da, 5s4t-Db, 5s4t-DC, 6s4t-DC, rm6s4t-10300-Df, Visteon
Application: Allis Chalmers Combine
F2 292 Gas 1977
F2 6-301 Diesel 1977
K2 250 Gas 1977
K2 4-200 Diesel 1977
Allis Chalmers Lift Truck
700 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1974-1977
700 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1974
800 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1974
800 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1974
AC-C 20 / 25 / 30 Continental F-135 1974-1977
AC-C 35 / 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Continental F-163 1975-1978
AC-C 35 / 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 D-175 Diesel 1974-1975
AC-C 35 / 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 G-153 Gas 1974-1975
AC-C 60 / 70 / 80 / 100 / 120 Continental F-245 1975-1977
AC-C 60 / 70 / 80 / 100 / 120 D-262 Diesel 1975-1977
AC-C 60 / 70 / 80 / 100 / 120 G-230 Gas 1974
AC-C 60C / 70C / 100C Continental F-245 1975-1977
AC-C 60C / 70C / 100C G-230 Gas 1974
AC-C 60D / 70D / 80D / 100D / 120D D-262 Diesel 1975-1977
AC-CD 60 / 70 / 80 / 100 / 120 D-262 Diesel 1974
AC-P 100 D-262 Diesel 1974-1977
AC-P 100 G-262 Gas 1974
AC-P 100D D-262 Diesel 1975-1977
AC-P 120 D-262 Diesel 1974-1977
AC-P 120 G-262 Gas 1974
AC-P 120D D-262 Diesel 1975-1977
AC-P 140 D-262 Diesel 1974-1977
AC-P 140 G-262 Gas 1974
AC-P 140D D-262 Diesel 1975-1977
AC-P 20 / 25 / 30 Continental F-135 1974-1977
AC-P 40 / 50 Continental F-163 1975-1977
AC-P 40 / 50 Continental G-153 1974
AC-P 40D / 50D Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1975-1977
AC-P 60 / 70 / 80 Continental F-245 1975-1977
AC-P 60 / 70 / 80 G-230 Gas 1974
AC-S 100 / 120 Continental F-245 1975-1977
AC-S 100 / 120 D-262 Diesel 1975-1977
AC-S 100D / 120D D-262 Diesel 1975-1977
AC-S 70D Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1975-1977
FPD-60 / FPD-70 / FPD-80 D-262 Diesel 1974-1977
FPD-60D / FPD-70D / FPD-80D D-262 Diesel 1974-1977
Allis Chalmers Loader
540 172 Gas - Ford 1975-1977
545 2900 Diesel 1972
605B 2900 Diesel 1972
715 4-203 Perkins 1974
715 4-236 Perkins 1974-1977
Allis Chalmers Sprayer F-85 Diesel 1973
Allis Chalmers Tractor - Farm 7000 6-301 Diesel 1975-1977
Allis Chalmers Tractor Loader TL 650 AC-2200 Diesel 1974
Baker Lift Truck
FDM-30 Various Engines 1986-1992
FDM-55 Various Engines 1986-1992
FDM-60 Various Engines 1986-1992
FDM-80 Various Engines 1986-1992
FGD-30 Various Engines 1971-1999
FGD-55 Various Engines 1971-1999
FGF-30 Various Engines 1971-1999
FGF-50 Various Engines 1971-1999
FGF-60 Various Engines 1971-1999
FGF-80 Various Engines 1989-1999
FID-30 Various Engines 1971-1999
FID-55 Various Engines 1971-1999
FID-60 Various Engines 1971-1992
FID-80 Various Engines 1971-1992
FIF-30 Various Engines 1971-1999
FIF-50 Various Engines 1971-1999
FIF-60 Various Engines 1989-1999
FIF-80 Various Engines 1989-1999
FJD-30 Various Engines 1971-1999
FJD-55 Various Engines 1971-1999
FJD-60 Various Engines 1971-1992
FJD-80 Various Engines 1971-1992
FJF-30 Various Engines 1971-1999
FJF-50 Various Engines 1971-1999
FJF-60 Various Engines 1989-1999
FJF-80 Various Engines 1989-1999
FMD-30 Various Engines 1971-1999
FMD-55 Various Engines 1971-1999
FMD-60 Various Engines 1971-1985
FMD-80 Various Engines 1971-1985
FMF-30 Various Engines 1971-1999
FMF-50 Various Engines 1971-1999
FMF-60 Various Engines 1989-1999
Bobcat Skid Steer Loader
632 Ford 4-98 Gas 1977-1979
M-620 Wisconsin VH4D Gas 1975-1976
Bobcat Wood Loader
1075 John Deere 4-276 Dsl 1975-1976
Case Agricultural Tractor
1070 6-451 Diesel 1970-1978
1170 6-451 Diesel 1970
1175 6-451 Diesel 1971-1978
1270 6-451 Diesel 1972-1978
1370 6-504 Diesel 1972-1978
1570 6-504 Diesel 1976-1978
2670 6-504 Diesel 1974-1988
3088 D358 Diesel 1979-1985
3088 D466 Diesel 1979-1985
3088 D466T Diesel 1979-1985
3288 D-358 Diesel 1979-1985
3288 D466 Diesel 1979-1985
3288 D466T Diesel 1979-1985
3688 D-466 1985-1986
480B 188 Diesel 1975
770 301 Diesel 1970-1975
770 4-251 Gas Engine 1970-1973
970 6-401 Case Diesel 1970-1978
Case Power Unit 188D 188 Diesel 1975-1977
336D 336 Diesel 1975-1978
Case Shovel
Cruz-Air 40 DD 4-53 1976-1978
Cruz-Air 80 DD 8V-71 1976-1978
Clark Lift Truck
C300-30 / 40 / 50 Continental F-163 Engine 1975-1982
C300-30 / 40 / 50 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1977-1978
C300-Y40 / 50 Continental F-163 Engine 1977-1981
C300-Y40 / 50 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1977-1978
C500-100 / 110 / 120 Continental F-245 Engine 1975-1982
C500-100 / 110 / 120 Perkins 4-248 Diesel 1982
C500-130 / 135 / 155 Perkins 4-248 Diesel 1982
C500-160 / 180 Perkins 6-354 Diesel 1982
C500-20 / 25 Continental Y-112 Engine 1975-1982
C500-200 Chrysler 318 Engine 1977-1978
C500-200 Continental F-245 Engine 1975-1978
C500-200 Perkins 6-354 Diesel 1982
C500-220 / 225 Perkins 6-354 Diesel 1982
C500-250 / 300 Chrysler 318 Engine 1977-1978
C500-250 / 300 Perkins 6-354 Diesel 1982
C500-30 Continental Y-112 Engine 1975-1982
C500-30 Waukesha 155 Engine 1975-1982
C500-30 Waukesha 176 Engine 1975-1982
C500-35 / 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Waukesha 155 Engine 1975-1982
C500-35 / 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Waukesha 176 Engine 1975-1982
C500-400 / 450 / 550 / 650 Cummins 8-555 Diesel 1982
C500-60 / 70 / 80 Continental F-227 Engine 1977-1982
C500-60 / 70 / 80 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1975-1978
C500-60 / 70 / 80 Perkins 4-248 Diesel 1982
C500-F20 / 25 Continental Y-112 Engine 1975-1976
C500-H Series Waukesha 155 Engine 1975-1976
C500-H40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Waukesha 155 Engine 1975-1976
C500-H40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Waukesha 176 Engine 1975-1976
C500-H60 / 70 / 80 Continental F-227 Engine 1975-1976
C500-H60 / 70 / 80 Continental F-245 Engine 1975-1976
C500-HY40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Chrysler 318 Engine 1974-1975
C500-HY40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Waukesha 155 Engine 1975-1976
C500-HY40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Waukesha 176 Engine 1975-1976
C500-HY60 / 70 / 80 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1975-1976
C500-S60 Waukesha 176 Engine 1977-1981
C500-Y100 Continental F-245 Engine 1975-1982
C500-Y100 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1975-1978
C500-Y110 Ford 300 Engine 1982
C500-Y120 / 130 / 135 / 150 Continental F-245 Engine 1975-1981
C500-Y120 / 130 / 135 / 150 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1975-1978
C500-Y160 / 200 / 250 / 300 Chrysler 318 Engine 1977-1981
C500-Y20 / 25 / 30 Continental F-163 Engine 1975-1982
C500-Y40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1977-1982
C500-Y40 / 45 / 50 / 55 Waukesha 176 Engine 1977-1982
C500-Y60 / 70 / 80 Continental F-245 Engine 1977-1982
C500-Y60 / 70 / 80 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1977-1978
C500-Y60 / 70 / 80 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1977-1978
C500-YF20 / 25 / 30 Continental F-163 Engine 1975-1976
C500-YS60 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1982
C500-YS60 Waukesha 176 Engine 1977-1982
CH60 Series Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1975-1976
CH70 Series Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1975-1976
CH80 Series Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1975-1976
GCS17 Mitsubishi Gas 1985-1994
GCS20 Mitsubishi Gas 1985-1994
GCS25 Mitsubishi Gas 1985-1994
GCS30 Mitsubishi 4G54 Gas 1985-1994
GCX20 Continental Gas 1990-1997
GCX25E Continental Gas 1990-1997
GCX30C Continental Gas 1990-1997
GCX40 Perkins Diesel Engines 1990-1997
GCX50 Perkins Diesel Engines 1990-1997
GPS17 Mitsubishi Gas 1985-1994
GPS20 Mitsubishi Gas 1985-1994
GPS25 Mitsubishi Gas 1985-1994
GPS30 Mitsubishi 4G54 Gas 1985-1994
GPX20 Gas Engines 1990-1995
GPX25E Gas Engines 1990-1995
GPX30 Gas Engines 1990-1995
IT60 Ford 300 Engine 1978-1980
IT60 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1975-1978
IT70 Ford 300 Engine 1978-1980
IT70 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1975-1978
IT80 Ford 300 Engine 1978-1980
IT80 Perkins 4-236 Diesel 1975-1978
Clark Skid Steer Loader
1075 J. Deere 4276 1975-1976
620 Wisconsin VH4D 1974-1976
632 Ford 4-98 1977-1979
Cockshutt Tractor
1555 232 Diesel 1975
1555 232 Gas 1975
1655 283 Diesel 1975
1655 283 Gas 1975
Construction Equipment Co. Grader
330-H Cummins JNR-100-C1 1971-1974
330-H DD 3-71 1971-1974
440 Cummins NHC-4 1971-1974
440 DD 4-71 1971-1974
440-H Cummins H-135 1971-1974
440-H DD 4-71 1971-1974
440-HT DD 4-71 1971-1974
444 DD 4-71 1971-1974
660-B Cummins H-6-C1 1971-1974
660-B DD 6-71 1971-1974
660-BT Cummins NHT-220-CT 1971-1974
660-BT DD 6-71 1971-1974
666-B Cummins H-135 1971-1974
666-B DD 4-71 1971-1974
777-B Cummins H-6-C1 1971-1974
777-B DD 6-71 1971-1974
777-BT Cummins NH-220-C1 1971-1974
777-BT DD 6-71 1971-1974
888-T DD 8V-71 1971-1974
Drott Mfg. Crane
Cruz-Crane 1500 DD 4-71 1976-1978
Cruz-Crane 1800 DD 4-71 1976-1978
Drott Mfg. Crawlers 35C DD 4-53 1976-1978
40C Case 504BDT 1976-1978
40C DD 4-71 1976-1978
Drott Mfg. Shovel
Cruz-Air 40-ER / 40-YR DD 4-53 1976-1978
Cruz-Air 80 DD 8V-71 1976-1978
Elgin Sweeper Sweeper
Eductor IHC-265 1971-1977
Pelican IHC 265 1971-1979
Pelican IHC UD-282 1971-1974
Pelican IHC UV-345 1971-1979
White Wing 4276 John Deere Diesel 0000
White Wing IHC 265 1971-1979
White Wing IHC UD-282 1971-1974
White Wing IHC UV-345 1971-1979
Fiat-Allis Grader
M-65 D-262 Diesel 1974-1978
Fiat-Allis Wheel
Loader 545B 2900 Diesel 1974-1976
605B 2900 Diesel 1974-1976
Galion Grader
503 4239 John Deere 0000
International Combine
715D D-301 Diesel 1972-1974
International Cotton Picker
Model 95 Cotton Harvester D-310 Diesel 1974-1979
International Lift Truck
I-4000DB D-179 Diesel 1971-1974
I-8000DB D-239 Diesel 1971-1974
International Loader
I-3400DA D-179 Diesel 1972-1975
I-3500DA D-239 Diesel 1972-1975
International Straddle Carrier
660 C-146 Gas 1972-1974
770 C-146 Gas 1972-1973
780 C-146 Gas 1972-1974
International Tractor - Agricultural
1066D (F&I) IHC D-414 Diesel 1971-1976
140 (F&I) IHC C-123 Gas 1973-1974
140HC (F&I) IHC C-123 Gas 1973-1974
1466D (F&I) IHC DT-436 Diesel 1971-1976
1468D (F&I) IHC DV-550 Diesel 1971-1974
1566D (F&I) IHC DT-436 Diesel 1974-1976
1568D (F&I) IHC DV-550 Diesel 1974-1976
2500A-D IHC D-239 Diesel 1972-1974
2500B-D IHC D-239 Diesel 1972-1974
4166D IHC DT-436 Diesel 1972-1976
4366D IHC DT-466 Diesel 1973-1976
464D IHC D-179 Diesel 1973-1976
574D IHC D-239 Diesel 1973-1976
766D IHC D-360 Diesel 1971-1976
966D (F&I) IHC D-414 Diesel 1971-1976
Farmall 666D IHC D-312 Diesel 1972-1976
Hydro 100D IHC D-436 Diesel 1973-1976
Hydro 70D IHC D-312 Diesel 1973-1976
International Tractor - Industrial
I-2400AD D-179 Diesel 1971-1975
I-2400BD D-179 Diesel 1971-1975
I-2500AD D-239 Diesel 1971-1975
I-2500BD D-239 Diesel 1971-1975
I-3400AD D-179 Diesel 1972-1975
I-3500AD D-239 Diesel 1972-1975
I-4500AD D-179 Diesel 1973-1974
I-4500BD D-179 Diesel 1973-1974
I-464D D-179 Diesel 1973-1974
I-574D D-239 Diesel 1973-1974
I-674D D-239 Diesel 1973-1974
I-674DRC D-239 Diesel 1973-1974
John Deere Agricultural Tractor
4030 329 Diesel 1973-1976
4230 6-404 Diesel 1973-1976
4430 6-404 Diesel 1973-1976
4620 6-404 Diesel 1969-1973
4630 6-404 Diesel 1973-1976
6030 6-531 Diesel 1970-1977
7020 404 Turbo Diesel 1971-1975
7520 Farm Tractor 6-531 Diesel 1971-1975
John Deere Baler
425 Hay Cuber DD 6V-71 1974
John Deere Engines - Industrial
4276D / T 0000
6414D / T 0000
John Deere Harvester
H7 100 Diesel 1972-1973
H7 100 Gas 1972-1973
John Deere Loader
JD544B 414 Diesel 1975-1982
JD644B 531 Diesel 1975-1982
John Deere Skidder
440C 276 Diesel 1976-1980
540B 276 Diesel 1976-1981
John Deere Tractor - Utility
5200 Utility Tractor 404 Diesel 1974-1977
5400 Utility Tractor 531 Diesel 1974-1977
Massey Ferguson Agricultural Tractor
MF-1085 Perkins AD4-318 Diesel 1973-1976
MF-1105 Perkins A6-354 Diesel 1971-1976
MF-1135 Perkins A6-354 Diesel 1971-1976
MF-1155 Perkins AV8-510 Diesel 1971-1973
MF-1155 Perkins AV8-540 Diesel 1974-1976
MF-1505 Cat. 3208 Diesel 1974-1976
MF-1805 Cat. 3208 Diesel 1974-1976
MF-230 Continental Z-145 Gas 1976-1978
MF-230 Perkins AD2-152 Diesel 1975-1976
MF-235 Continental Z-145 Gas 1975-1976
MF-235 Perkins AD3-152 Diesel 1974-1976
MF-245 Continental Z-145 Gas 1977-1978
MF-255 Perkins 4-203 Diesel 1974-1976
MF-255 Perkins AG4-212 Gas 1974-1975
MF-265 Perkins AD4-236 Diesel 1974-1976
MF-265 Perkins AG4-236 Gas 1974-1975
MF-275 Perkins AD4-248 Diesel 1974-1976
MF-285 Perkins 4-236 Gas 1973-1974
MF-285 Perkins 4-318 Diesel 1973-1976
MF-295 Perkins AD4-318 Diesel 1979-1982
Massey Ferguson Combine MF-740 Perkins A6-354 Diesel 1972-1973
MF-750 Perkins A6-354 Diesel 1972-1973
MF-760 Perkins A6-354 Diesel 1972-1973
Massey Ferguson Lift Truck
MF-2200 Perkins AD3-152 Diesel 1976
MF-4000 Perkins AD3-152 Diesel 1974
MF-4000 Perkins AG3-152 Gas 1974
MF-4500 Continental Z-145 Gas 1975-1977
MF-4500 Perkins AD3-152 Diesel 1975-1976
MF-6500 Perkins AD4-236 Diesel 1975-1976
Massey Ferguson Loader
MF-31 Wheel Loader Perkins AD4-236 Diesel 1976
Massey Ferguson Skidder
MF-220 Log Skidder Perkins A4-248 Diesel 1973-1975
MF-320 Log Skidder Perkins A4-318 Diesel 1976-1978
Massey Ferguson Tractor - Industrial
MF-20U Continental Z-145 Gas 1976-1977
MF-20U Perkins AD3-152 Diesel 1976-1977
MF-30U Continental Z-145 Gas 1976-1977
MF-40U Continental Z-145 Gas 1976-1977
MF-40U Perkins AD3-152 Diesel 1976
MF-45U Perkins AD4-203 Diesel 1976
MF-50U Perkins AD4-203 Diesel 1976
MF-6000 Perkins 4-236 Deisel 1974-1975
MF-6000 Perkins AD4-236 Diesel 1974
MF-6000 Perkins AG4-236 Gas 1974-1975
Massey Ferguson Wheel Loader
MF-55 Wheel Loader Perkins V8-510 Diesel 1976
Minneapolis Moline Tractor
G-1055 6-504 Diesel 1972-1974
G-1355 6-585 Diesel 1972-1974
G-955 6-451 Gas or Diesel 1972-1974
Oliver Tractor
1555 232 Diesel Engine 1975
1555 232 Gas Engine 1975
1655 283 Diesel Engine 1975
1655 283 Gas Engine 1975
2255 Cat. 3150 1972-1974
2655 585 Diesel 1972-1974
Toro Misc. Equipment
Matador Chevrolet 153 Gas 1976-1977
Parkmaster Chevrolet 250 Gas 1976-1977
Parkmaster Perkins 188 Diesel 1976-1977
Versatile Tractor
256 4-239 Diesel 1984-1986
276 4-239 Diesel 1985
Waukesha Engine Medium Duty
180DCL 4cyl Diesel Engine 1974
F-1197 6cyl Gas and Diesel 1974
F-2895 6cyl Gas, LPG & Diesel 1974
F-3521 6cyl Gas and LPG 1974
F-817G 6cyl Gas 1974-1980
H-1077 8cyl Gas and Diesel 1974
L-1616 12cyl Gas and Diesel 1974
L-5100D 12cyl Diesel 1974
L-5108G 12cyl Gas 1974
L-5790 12cyl Gas and Diesel 1974
L-7042G 12cyl Gas and Diesel 1974
P-2154 16cyl Gas and Diesel 1974
VRD-232 6cyl Diesel 1973-1978
VRD-283 6cyl Diesel 1973-1978
VRD-310 6cyl Gas 1973-1978
VRD155 Diesel Engines 1975-1978
VRG-232 6cyl Gas 1973-1978
VRG-265 6cyl Gas 1973-1978
VRG-283 6cyl Gas 1973-1978
VRG-310 6cyl Gas 1973-1978
VRG155 Gas Engines 1975-1978
Waukesha Small Engine
180GKB 4cyl Gas Engine 1974
White (Cockshutt) Tractor
1555 Gas or Diesel Engines 1975
1655 Gas or Diesel Engines 1975
2255 Cat. 3150 1970-1974
2655 Gas or Diesel Engines 1970-1974
White (Mpls Moline) Tractor
G-1055 6-504 Diesel 1972-1974
G-1355 6-585 Diesel 1972-1974
G-955 6-451 Diesel Engine 1972-1974
White (Oliver) Tractor
1555 232 Gas & Diesel 1975
1655 283 Gas or Diesel 1975
2255 Cat. 3150 1972-1974
2655 585 Diesel 1972-1974
White Industrial Combine
7300 Perkins 6-354 1974-1980
White Industrial Lift Truck
MA-100 Continental F-227 1971-1974
MA-20 Waukesha FC 133 1975-1978
MA-25 Waukesha FC 133 1975-1978
MA-30 Waukesha FC 133 1975-1978
MA-30H Continental F-163 1975-1978
MA-35 Continental F-163 1975-1978
MA-40 Continental F-163 1975-1978
MA-45 Continental F-163 1975-1978
MA-50 Continental F-163 1975-1978
MA-55 Continental F-163 1975-1978
MA-60H Continental F-227 1975-1978
MA-60S Continental F-163 1975-1978
MA-70 Continental F-227 1971-1974
MA-80 Continental F-227 1971-1974
MA-90 Continental F-227 1971-1974
MSB-20 Ford V4-104 1975-1978
MSB-25 Ford V4-104 1975-1978
MSB-30 Ford V4-104 1975-1978
MSB-35 Ford V4-104 1975-1978
MY-20 Hercules G-1600 1972-1980
MY-25 Hercules G-1600 1972-1982
MY-30 Hercules G-1600 1972-1982
MY-40B 4-236 Diesel 1973-1978
MY-40B 6-225 Gas 1973-1978
MY-50B 4-236 Diesel 1973-1978
MY-50B 6-225 Gas 1973-1978
MY-60B 4-236 Diesel 1973-1978
MY-60B 6-225 Gas 1973-1978
MY-70B 4-236 Diesel 1973-1978
MY-70B 6-225 Gas 1973-1978
MY-80B 4-236 Diesel 1975-1978
MY-80B 6-225 Gas 1975-1978
White Industrial Tractor
2-105 Perkins 6-354 1975-1977
2-150 White 6-585 Diesel 1975-1977
2-70 Waukesha 283 1975-1977
2-85 Perkins 6-354 1975-1977
4-150 Caterpillar V8-636 1975-1977
4-180 Caterpillar V8-636 1975-1977
Warranty
OBB Starters and Alternators backs all of our quality units sold on this website with a ONE (1) year warranty,
from original date of purchase. Our warranty covers manufacturer defects, but does not cover any damage caused
for any other circumstances such as installation or mechanical error, weathering, damage due to water, etc.
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